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hn_throwaway_99 2 hours ago [-]
I kind of want to flag this because it reads like dumb rage bait, but I'll comment instead.
> While Apple certainly made boatloads of money during Cook's tenure, the company also steadily morphed into something unthinkable to company founders Jobs and Steve Wozniak: it became not just increasingly unethical...
If you think Tim Cook is/was less ethical than Steve Jobs of all people, my only rational conclusion is that you don't know Jobs' history or you're an idiot.
mikestew 50 minutes ago [-]
It's pretty unhinged, I made it about three paragraphs before closing the tab. But sometimes even ragebait can be useful for the discussion in the comments, I suppose.
leonidasrup 1 hours ago [-]
"Colligan attached an email he sent to Jobs in Aug. 2007, in which he told the late Apple exec that his idea was "likely illegal.""
There is a lot to criticize about TC, but if you think the Apple Silicon move is dull (not in terms of technology, but what experiences it opens), you are incredibly stupid and shortsighted.
SMEbooop 31 minutes ago [-]
TL;DR Cook kept an already mature Jobs era initiative alive
Apple's first chip, A4, was released in 2010 before Jobs was gone
Given how long it took then to get a single chip physically manufactured the business plan had been sorted out for years, likely not long after the switch to Intel
They were just waiting for manufacturers to hit the right metrics
Synaesthesia 2 hours ago [-]
The phone I bought from China eats Apple hardware for breakfast. It's got IP69 protection, only 7mm thick, a massive battery that charges incredibly quickly (4800mah). It's basically like an iPhone air but it only cost me about $500 (Motorola X70 Air)
When Apple embraces Silicon Carbide batteries I'm sure they're going to make amazing stuff.
It's not like they haven't impressed on the hardware side. If you look at something like the M4 iPad Pro which was released 2 years ago, there is no competition even close. Nor with their laptops.
Kirby64 1 hours ago [-]
Except it's got a mid-tier processor, and likely pretty under-performant cameras like most Motorola stuff? Compromises here.
I like the other article today, where Tim Cook has gone from "possibly the best manufacturing and logistics person in the world", to "Apple blindsided by demand for AI use of products".
karim79 2 hours ago [-]
Great article but I think the better one is linked at the bottom of the page. I'll paste it here for convenience:
This reads like a particularly biased and hateful rage-infused hit piece by someone suffering from woke psyschosis.
archagon 1 hours ago [-]
That’s a whole lot of words that, when strung together, mean absolutely nothing. Good job.
hn_throwaway_99 40 minutes ago [-]
Made perfect sense to me, not sure why you think it means "absolutely nothing", even if you disagree.
archagon 31 minutes ago [-]
Using “woke psychosis” seriously in a sentence is its own kind of psychosis.
jleyank 4 hours ago [-]
It seems, sadly, that the techbros aren't trying to change the world for must of us. Perhaps change it for themselves, certainly prevent their pile from being reduced. More "F*ck you, I got mine!" I guess.
2 hours ago [-]
paimapi 2 hours ago [-]
tale as old as time. cis gay white men joining the Log Cabin and advocating against trans rights as soon as they taste power is another example
it reminds me of playground socialization. the cool kids bully you for a long time and so you socialize with the outcasts. one day you get invited into the cool crowd, minimally welcomed with some reservations, and suddenly you're bullying the outcasts you used to associate with even harder than the cool kids ever did because you think it'll help elevate your status with your new in-group
it's really a gross, childish thing but so so common to people who come into power after having it withheld for so long, at least in some Western societies
president_zippy 2 hours ago [-]
Have you ever wondered how you sound to other people?
ksec 3 hours ago [-]
>despite no limit of "fuck you money" (Apple has a $4.665 trillion market cap and $62.5 billion cash on hand).
$62 billion is not a lot of money for Apple's size. And if there is one major thing that changed between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook's Apple, it is Steve Jobs prioritise a lot more for stakeholders, while Tim Cook 100% prioritise for shareholder. They went from being a pirate to become the navy.
Other than that the whole piece is more about Apple getting close to Trump than anything else.
m463 2 hours ago [-]
"Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me. Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful -- that's what matters to me." - SJ
rtklpp 2 hours ago [-]
"presumably to be replaced with younger white men similarly incapable of standing up to fascism"
Wow. Google, Microsoft, IBM, Intel, Micron, Nvidia all have Asian men incapable of standing up to fascism.
White CEOs appear to be the minority in tech companies.
Synaesthesia 2 hours ago [-]
Fascism is literally the union of corporations and the state. So why would a CEO stand up against it?
Only the people will stand up against fascism, in a mass movement for freedom and democracy.
It's not about their race. Plenty of Asian people in Silicon Valley. Or even their personal beliefs. It's about the interests of shareholders, which they have to (by law!) satify. That means making profit.
SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago [-]
I would point out that the Apple Watch and AirPods are both great rather than dull products, but I strongly suspect the author here was not making a good faith attempt to analyze Tim Cook's product legacy.
dude250711 2 hours ago [-]
Removing headphone socket under the premise of thinness just to force consumers into buying wireless ones was a genius move for their profits. They should have made them a bit easier to loose too.
tpmoney 47 minutes ago [-]
Lightning and USB-C adapters have been a thing since that change was made if not before. Even assuming the one time cost of $10 for Apple’s adapter was too rich for your blood, you can get a 5 pack on Amazon for $8. And that’s before you get k to the usb headphones out there.
No one, absolutely no one was “forced” to buy wireless headphones.
notaustinpowers 49 minutes ago [-]
The 3.5mm headphone jack adapter is $9. How are they forcing people to buy wireless ones?
SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago [-]
I understand why some people get annoyed, but my jeans no longer get a phone bulge pattern worn into them and my headphone cords don't try to strangle me at the gym. For me these were both great innovations.
trencedamp 2 hours ago [-]
> Our dull corporate press is unsurprisingly obsessed with wealth. If you make large gobs of money you are inherently very smart, skilled, and good. Absolutely everything else is a pesky afterthought. It's why Elon Musk, an unremarkable bigot cosplaying as a supergenius engineer, so easily enamoured a shaky U.S. media for the fifteen year run up to his recreational ketamine-fueled nazi ego implosion.
What a fantastic piece of writing. I reread this five times.
> While Apple certainly made boatloads of money during Cook's tenure, the company also steadily morphed into something unthinkable to company founders Jobs and Steve Wozniak: it became not just increasingly unethical...
If you think Tim Cook is/was less ethical than Steve Jobs of all people, my only rational conclusion is that you don't know Jobs' history or you're an idiot.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/steve-jobs-threatened-palm-with-p...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
https://conversableeconomist.com/2025/10/31/the-silicon-vall...
Apple's first chip, A4, was released in 2010 before Jobs was gone
Given how long it took then to get a single chip physically manufactured the business plan had been sorted out for years, likely not long after the switch to Intel
They were just waiting for manufacturers to hit the right metrics
When Apple embraces Silicon Carbide batteries I'm sure they're going to make amazing stuff.
It's not like they haven't impressed on the hardware side. If you look at something like the M4 iPad Pro which was released 2 years ago, there is no competition even close. Nor with their laptops.
https://karlbode.com/the-hulk-hates-fascist-media-consolidat...
it reminds me of playground socialization. the cool kids bully you for a long time and so you socialize with the outcasts. one day you get invited into the cool crowd, minimally welcomed with some reservations, and suddenly you're bullying the outcasts you used to associate with even harder than the cool kids ever did because you think it'll help elevate your status with your new in-group
it's really a gross, childish thing but so so common to people who come into power after having it withheld for so long, at least in some Western societies
$62 billion is not a lot of money for Apple's size. And if there is one major thing that changed between Steve Jobs and Tim Cook's Apple, it is Steve Jobs prioritise a lot more for stakeholders, while Tim Cook 100% prioritise for shareholder. They went from being a pirate to become the navy.
Other than that the whole piece is more about Apple getting close to Trump than anything else.
Wow. Google, Microsoft, IBM, Intel, Micron, Nvidia all have Asian men incapable of standing up to fascism.
White CEOs appear to be the minority in tech companies.
Only the people will stand up against fascism, in a mass movement for freedom and democracy.
It's not about their race. Plenty of Asian people in Silicon Valley. Or even their personal beliefs. It's about the interests of shareholders, which they have to (by law!) satify. That means making profit.
No one, absolutely no one was “forced” to buy wireless headphones.
What a fantastic piece of writing. I reread this five times.